Topic: Wrestling?

For whatever reason, they don't want Dolph to leave the company.

I guess they're scared he'd be a success on the indies.

I doubt it. Dolph only knows how to work WWE style, which will get you slaughtered and booed by the Ratework loving Smarks who live and die based on how many moves you can do, how fast you can do them, and how many stars Papa Meltz gives your match.

Even Cody Rhodes, perhaps the most successful "WWE-To-Indies" guy, hasn't been as warmly received as expected, and is arguably only as successful as he is because he signed up with Bullet Club...and we really don't need another ex WWE guy joining Bullet Club and watering down that stable even further.

I seriously doubt every mark out there is clamoring for Melzter's star reviews, and Dolph can do a shit ton of moves and sell if allowed to cut loose, not saying hed be a big star everywhere else but he'd certainly do well enough if he left. And i disagree with Rhodes, dude was doing great and looking awesome before he officially joined the Club, im sure he would have been fine no matter what he did.

Smark, not mark, and I've found a large percentage of them want Meltzers marks to go both ways. Want to disagree or criticize Meltzer? "It's just his subjective opinion man."

But when they want to lord the superiority of NJPW/the Indies over WWE or praise Kenny Omega or whatever, then its "Look how many 5 star matches this company/guy puts on, he's clearly the best ever! Meltz has been covering wrestling for a long time, so he knows more than you, so his stuff is objective!"

I'll agree that Cody was doing good on his own before the club. I was mainly referring to him not being accepted by the IWC crowd till he joined up. Even now, you see a lot of mumblings about him being "the 3 star King" because he's apparently so behind the Japanese talent to some of these weebs.

As for Ziggles, its possible that maybe he just doesn't actually want to work anywhere but WWE. I know the narritive in the smark community is that, since indy wrestling is bigger than ever, (which is a good thing) everybody in WWE is clamoring to get out of their contracts, but maybe Dolph has no actual desire to work that scene or work in Japan.

I think Dolphs more in it for the money than to be able to say he's the top level talent of Ring Of Honor.

Besides, The Young Bucks already do everything Ziggler does. He should just collect his money and keep whining for a push on twitter, then retire quietly and go away.

A large percentage of assholes you mean? people saying stuff on the internet doesn't mean everybody cares about it, Meltzers a dude, some people are going to hold his opinion with a  grain of salt and others are going to treat it like gospel. Every voice on the internet that exists has people like them and getting worked up over it doesn't do anything good for anyone XD.

And not being 'accepted' is a stretch. the IWC isn't one big universal voice, its millions of voices that argue with each other, agree with each other, and generally love there interpretation of wrestling, whatever that interpretation may be. As long as Cody is doing well enough for success is all he should strive for and all he seems to strive for.

Or Dolph just doesn't like the idea of cutting and running, after all his best work is in WWE and while he may not always be happy with how things go down its still the business where he made his name and for some people making the most of your situation there then try and leave for somewhere else where your starting over.

Im not gonna touch that last sentence.

I would actually be more invested in WWE matches if they would allow the people some more moves. No corkscrew senton from the steel cage or something, just break the routine sometimes like Bret Hart. He could and would break his routine sometimes, like with the victory roll cover he showed against Owen Hart.

Entertainment and a shred of consistency should still come first, but astoundingly this is the place where WWE tends to suck the most big time. I was not interested in let´s say Mark Henry when he was the sexual chocolate because that was neither humoring nor entertaining or anything remotely enjoyable. Hall of Pain Mark Henry? Any day. I sometimes don´t quite get how hard it is for a prefessional writer to tie consistency and entertainment in a watchable package.

So what do you all think, will Cena vs the Undertaker happen at WM after what happend at Fastlane?

BEHOLD! THE FABULOUS MOOLAH BATTLE ROYALE!!!

AND NEXT YEAR THE JIMMY SNUKA HOTEL INVITATIONAL!

AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT, THE CHRIS BENIOT LADDER MATCH EXTRAVAGANZA!!!

(Apologies to those I stole the jokes from...)

My point...fuck WWE.

Yeah, for those that don't know, there exists a lot of rumors and hear say that Moolah was a terrible woman who pimped out her wrestling students and took most of their earnings by being their only booker.

If true, she was basically a very bad lady...if they are true.

It's like OJ Simpson getting an award named after him.