Re: Pokemon Thread

[Cy_Man]

[quote="Alexandra":3h1rvta4]But that's not true at all. Black/White has the best story in the game, there's so much going on there. Gold/Silver is just "visit town, fight gym, go to next town".

Hearing you guys say that makes me think that you didn't play DPP or BW at all. :X

Oh believe me, I DID play them and I dreaded EVERY second of it, especially considering every 5 seconds I had to see an unoriginal Pokemon that looked stupid. The only thing I liked about Black and White was Iris, but other then that, it's just the same boring and reused and altered crap over and over again. Also, it does that "visit town, fight gym, go to next town" formula too.

[Alexandra]

[quote="CybeastGregarX":11xgen3n]Oh believe me, I DID play them and I dreaded EVERY second of it, especially considering every 5 seconds I had to see an unoriginal Pokemon that looked stupid. The only thing I liked about Black and White was Iris, but other then that, it's just the same boring and reused and altered crap over and over again. Also, it does that "visit town, fight gym, go to next town" formula too.

Every gen has good Pokemon, and every gen has unoriginal ones, even RYB and GSC. Trust me, there's a LOT of crap in the first two gens that looks pretty stupid. >_>

It uses 'visit town, fight gym, to the next town' as the basis, but Black and White spice the formula up a LOT more than most of the other games in the series. Most of the cities, you can't even fight the gym leader until you work with them to help clear Team Plasma out of the place. Plus, there's the whole plotline with N and the legendary dragons throughout the game. Not to mention HAVING YOUR CHAMPION BATTLE INTERRUPTED BY A CASTLE COMING OUT OF NOWHERE AND N FORCING YOU TO DUEL HIM WITH YOUR DRAGON.

Goddamn, that was an amazing moment.

[TheWamts]

Please don't do the Gen # was best debate, I get a headache every time I read through one of those, there's never any good points given in any of them. Similarily, all of the Pokemon games are roughly equal in quality in my opinion, although the sequel/expansion games are usually slightly better or polished than the previous iteration. (Emerald > Ruby/Sapphire, B2/W2>B/W)

And Gen II Master Race.

[Old_Man_Tai]

Wait,the old Pokemon games had a story before B/W?

Like, an actual STORY, like other RPG games?


Or just like, a few bits of dialogue, references and a reoccurring character that made it seem like there was a real story if you didn't know any better, like how Hangover 2 seemed funny and original to people who are idiots.


@Gregar: Your criticizing a pokemon game for doing the same formula stuff as the other pokemon games, while also praising a past pokemon game that also stuck to the same boring formula. Did you also happen to totally love Mega Man 6, while hating Mega Man 7?


Honestly, B/W is the first pokemon game I was actually tempted to play. I finally started playing FireRed after borrowing it off a friend to try and get into it....but frankly I found it boring as hell.

[IndigoDragon]

FireRed and Leafgreen Dont get fun until about the fourth gym
RSE gets good around the third gym
DPP gets good later around the fifth or sixth gym
HGSS will always be good,except it gets hard to level up a lot of my pokemon...
BW/B2W2 gets good around the third gym

My opinion,and it happens EVERY time I start a new game.I do it to try new combinations of teams

[Alexandra]

[quote="Old_Man_Tai":1vtgvkk4]Wait,the old Pokemon games had a story before B/W?

Like, an actual STORY, like other RPG games?

Gen I and Gen II had really, really barebones story. There really wasn't anything much there at all.

Gen III had a much more robust storyline, and then Gen IV even moreso than that. Gen IV's story was really, really good, I thought.

Then Gen V (Black/White and Black 2/White 2) went all out, giving a full story with really cool characters and surprisingly clever themes and writing. Sadly Gen VI, the latest games, took a huge step back in that department (As well as steps back in several other areas), but it made a ton of massive steps forward in other places so I can forgive it for that.

[Cy_Man]

[quote="Old_Man_Tai":36exoyqk]@Gregar: Your criticizing a pokemon game for doing the same formula stuff as the other pokemon games, while also praising a past pokemon game that also stuck to the same boring formula. Did you also happen to totally love Mega Man 6, while hating Mega Man 7?

I wasn't just criticizing the game formula, I was criticizing everything else. The Pokemon from Gen IV and up, the "Teams", and the like. Every new gen has a new set of Pokemon that is just as stupid and unoriginal as the next, and with currently 718 kinds of Pokemon with tons in each region, the world is overpopulated. While it is nice to have an evil force to face in the games like the "Teams", they just have the same goal but with slight changes to it nowadays. With the addition of Mega Evolutions in X and Y, they stepped to a new low. The Mega Evolutions was wasted potential and a clear rip off of Digimon. The reason I am praising past Pokemon games is because they are classics, that were also remade to be better. You cannot go wrong with the old games, you can just say I am old school and I love it.

Also I liked every MegaMan game to date, the only ones I hate is RockMan Xover, Super RockMan Adventure, and the sports side games.

Look, we each have our own opinions. Mine is that I am old school and prefer the Gen I, II, and III games while I despise Gens IV (save for HeartGold and SoulSilver), and up. If you like the new stuff then that is just fine. It's still impossible to complete the Pokedex anyway... -___-

[Alexandra]

But...the teams don't have the same goals. Like, they don't have similar goals at all.

Team Rocket consisted of gangsters who wanted to steal and sell Pokemon to make money.
Team Aqua wanted to flood the world for whatever reason, while Team Magma wanted to extend the land so humanity could expand themselves further.
Team Galactic wanted to create destroy reality so that Cyrus could create a new universe without emotion and stand as it's god.
Team Plasma wanted to everyone to free their Pokemon so that Ghetsis could rule the region himself.
Team Flare wanted to something something beauty something fuck Team Flare 'cause those guys were laaaaame.

Mega Evolutions aren't a ripoff of Digimon at all. The director of X/Y even came out and said it. They're just a standard power-up feature like most shonen stuff has, like DBZ, Yu Yu Hakusho, One Piece, and etc. Evolutions have always been a key feature of the Pokemon series. Mega Evolution was just a way of taking it one step further.

And again, every region has good Pokemon designs and bad ones, even RYB and GSC.

It's not impossible to complete the Pokedex either. I did it in Diamond, and if I wasn't so lazy I would move all of those monsters ahead to White and then to X and have it done again.

[quote="Alexandra":1uzm2rf0]But...the teams don't have the same goals. Like, they have similar goals at all.

Yeah that's what I meant to say, but they still did the same thing regarding the misuse of Pokemon and treating them like tools.

[quote="Alexandra":1uzm2rf0]Mega Evolutions aren't a ripoff of Digimon at all. The director of X/Y even came out and said it. They're just a standard power-up feature like most shonen stuff has, like DBZ, Yu Yu Hakusho, One Piece, and etc. Evolutions have always been a key feature of the Pokemon series. Mega Evolution was just a way of taking it one step further.

[anegge]

[quote="Alexandra":g7uo2f3q]But...the teams don't have the same goals. Like, they don't have similar goals at all.

Team Rocket consisted of gangsters who wanted to steal and sell Pokemon to make money.
Team Aqua wanted to flood the world for whatever reason, while Team Magma wanted to extend the land so humanity could expand themselves further.
Team Galactic wanted to create destroy reality so that Cyrus could create a new universe without emotion and stand as it's god.
Team Plasma wanted to everyone to free their Pokemon so that Ghetsis could rule the region himself.
Team Flare wanted to something something beauty something fuck Team Flare 'cause those guys were laaaaame.

the theme in pokemon is that you should always do things for yourself because teaming up with other people is evil. also becoming an adult means subjugating nature to your whims.

so basically pokemon = libertarians.

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